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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC) interviews the world's greatest venture capitalists with prior guests including Sequoia's Doug Leone and Benchmark's Bill Gurley. Once per week, 20VC Host, Harry Stebbings is also joined by one of the great founders of our time with prior founder episodes from Spotify's Daniel Ek, Linkedin's Reid Hoffman, and Snowflake's Frank Slootman. If you would like to see more of The Twenty Minute VC (20VC), head to www.20vc.com for more information on the podcast, show notes, resources and more.

  1. 20Sales: ElevenLabs: Why We Set a 20x Sales Quota | How to Structure Sales Compensation Plans | Customer Success: 'Total BS' or Growth Engine? | Building an AI Sales Machine: What Tools & Tactics Must CROs Adopt Today with Carles Reina

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    20Sales: ElevenLabs: Why We Set a 20x Sales Quota | How to Structure Sales Compensation Plans | Customer Success: 'Total BS' or Growth Engine? | Building an AI Sales Machine: What Tools & Tactics Must CROs Adopt Today with Carles Reina

    Carles Reina is VP of Sales at ElevenLabs, where he was the first investor and fourth employee. Carles has scaled the revenue org from Day 1 to over $350M in just 3 years. Carles is also an active investor with investments in ElevenLabs, Revolut, Happy Robot and more.   AGENDA: 00:00 - Is the Traditional CRO Dead in the Age of AI? 01:01 - Building the AI Sales Machine: Agents that Actually Generate Revenue 08:35 - Will AI Shrink the Sales Teams of the Future? 09:51 - The ElevenLabs Masterclass: Why We Set a 20x Sales Quota 11:00 - How to Structure Explosive Sales Accelerators 12:15 - Why You Should Stop Paying Commission on Pilots 14:00 - Customer Success: Is it 'Total B******t' or a Growth Engine? 16:15 - The 'Global-First' Fallacy: Why You Need to Open Every Market Now 17:23 - Why Startups Are Wrong to Ignore 20-Year Sales Veterans 19:15 - The Pipeline Construction Secret: Liquidity vs. Whales 24:30 - Forecasting the Unpredictable: How to Hit a $1B Revenue Target 31:55 - The Substitution Threat: Is AI Voice Just a Commodity? 34:10 - Verticalization Mistakes: Lessons from Scaling India 38:40 - The 'IBM Effect': Does Brand Actually Shorten Sales Cycles? 40:15 - Extreme Expectations: Why ElevenLabs is a Hard Company to Work For 42:15 - Internal Leaderboards: How to Use Public Competition to Drive Results 44:20 - Hunting the Obsessed: Identifying the 'Inner Psychopath' in Hires 46:40 - The SaaS Apocalypse: Will Companies Build Their Own CRM? 48:30 - Formula 1 Branding: The Mindset Behind the Audi-Revolut Deal 50:15 - Dinner vs. Conferences: Which Marketing Channels Actually Scale? 52:45 - Designing Un-Salesy Content: How to Run a Legendary Summit 54:20 - CVC Strategy: Turning Corporate Investors into Distribution Channels 01:01:45 - The Globalization Nightmare: Why You Can't Sell in English Everywhere 01:06:45 - Operator-Investors: Can You Be a High-Performer and a VC Simultaneously? 01:11:30 - Unit Economics in AI: Why Good Early Numbers Might Mean Failure 01:18:25 - The Next Wave: Why Foundational Model Consolidation is Inevitable

    1 h 25 min
  2. 20VC: Anthropic Surpasses OpenAI Revenue | OpenAI Acquisition of TBPN: Analysed | OpenAI Management Team Reboot | YC Kicks Delve Out | Mercor Hack and Why Now is the Time for Cyber | Supabase Raising at $10BN & Doug Leone Returns to Sequoia

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    20VC: Anthropic Surpasses OpenAI Revenue | OpenAI Acquisition of TBPN: Analysed | OpenAI Management Team Reboot | YC Kicks Delve Out | Mercor Hack and Why Now is the Time for Cyber | Supabase Raising at $10BN & Doug Leone Returns to Sequoia

    AGENDA: 03:59 — Anthropic Surpasses OpenAI in Revenue 12:43 — OpenAI Management Reboot 18:24 — OpenAI Buys TBPN 29:00 — SpaceX Files for IPO Targeting $2 Trillion Valuation 37:21 — Doug Leone Returns to Sequoia Capital 41:14 — YC Kicks Out Delve 45:21 — The Rise of Open Router 57:59 — Supabase Targeting $10B Valuation 01:08:18 — The Mercor Hack and AI Cyber Threats Moving Forward 01:17:25 — The $1.8B Two-Person Company

    1 h 27 min
  3. 20VC: DeepMind's Demis Hassabis on Why AGI is Bigger than the Industrial Revolution | Why LLMs Will Not Commoditise & We Have Not Hit Scaling Laws | Bottlenecks in AI & The Energy Crisis Caused By AI | Whether AI Will Do More to Harm or Help Inequality

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    20VC: DeepMind's Demis Hassabis on Why AGI is Bigger than the Industrial Revolution | Why LLMs Will Not Commoditise & We Have Not Hit Scaling Laws | Bottlenecks in AI & The Energy Crisis Caused By AI | Whether AI Will Do More to Harm or Help Inequality

    Demis Hassabis is the Co-Founder & CEO of Google DeepMind - working on AGI, responsible for AI breakthroughs such as AlphaGo, the first program to beat the world champion at the game of Go; and AlphaFold, which cracked the 50-year grand challenge of protein structure prediction and was recognised with the 2024 Nobel Prize in Chemistry. Demis is revolutionising drug discovery at Isomorphic Labs. Ultimately, trying to understand the fundamental nature of reality. AGENDA: 00:04:00 — What Actually Counts as AGI; and Where Are We Today? 00:05:00 — What Are the Biggest Bottlenecks Holding AI Back Today? 00:06:00 — Have We Hit the Limits of Scaling Laws? 00:07:00 — Where Is AI Ahead of Expectations; and What's Still Missing? 00:07:30 — Why Can't AI Systems Learn Continuously Like Humans? 00:08:30 — How Did DeepMind Go from Behind to Leading the Pack? 00:11:00 — Are We Heading Toward Model Commoditization; or Winner-Takes-All? 00:12:00 — What Does the Future of Open Source Really Look Like? 00:13:00 — What Does a Post LLM World Look Like? 00:14:45 — Can AI Really Fix Drug Discovery—and Cut the 10-Year Timeline? 00:17:00 — What Does "Good" AI Regulation Actually Look Like? 00:18:00 — Who Should Be the Ultimate Arbiter of Truth in an AI World? 00:19:30 — If Demis Had One Shot to Fix AI Safety, What Would He Do? 00:21:00 — Is This Time Different for Jobs; or Will History Repeat Itself? 00:22:00 — Is AGI Bigger Than the Industrial Revolution; and Faster? 00:23:00 — Are We Underestimating AI Despite All the Hype? 00:23:30 — Does AI Lead to Massive Inequality; or Universal Prosperity? 00:24:30 — How Do We Solve the Energy Crisis Created by AI? 00:26:00 — Why Stay in the UK Instead of Moving to Silicon Valley? 00:28:00 — Will Europe Ever Build a Trillion-Dollar Tech Giant? 00:29:30 — Meeting Elon Musk for the First Time? 00:31:00 — What Big Questions About AI Is No One Talking About? 00:31:30 — What Does Demis Want His Legacy to Be?

    36 min
  4. 20VC: Hims & Hers: $4.3BN Market Cap on $2.3BN of Revenue: The Comeback | Why Being Public is 10x Better | The Death of the "Strategy" Hire | Why Performance Marketing is Worse than Brand Marketing with Andrew Dudum

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    20VC: Hims & Hers: $4.3BN Market Cap on $2.3BN of Revenue: The Comeback | Why Being Public is 10x Better | The Death of the "Strategy" Hire | Why Performance Marketing is Worse than Brand Marketing with Andrew Dudum

    Andrew Dudum is the Founder and CEO of Hims, the company reshaping consumers relationship to healthcare. It has been a rocky ride over the last 6 months, the company is down 66%, their market cap today is $4.3BN on $2.3BN of revenue. They just bought their largest international competitor, Eucalyptus for $1.5BN.  AGENDA: 00:00 — Why Being Public Is Better Than Private  02:50 — My Advice to The Collisons on Taking Stripe Public 07:15 — How to Hire for the Most Gritty People: The Test  10:55 — How AI Will Reshape All of Customer Acquisition  15:30 — What Did Hims Do That Andrew Wishes They Had Not Done  20:15 — What is the Least Profitable but Most Important Hims Product 27:10 — The $1.5BN Acquisition: Why Hims Bought Their Biggest Global Competitor  33:45 — Why Brand Marketing Beats Performance Marketing  39:40 — The Future of Prevention: Why Your Next Blood Test Should Be Free  46:50 — Disrupting the PBMs: How We Are Breaking the Corrupt US Healthcare System

    59 min
  5. 20VC: Anthropic's $6BN Revenue Month | OpenAI Kills Sora & Hits $100M ARR on Ads | Oura Going Public & Whoop Raises at $10BN | Manus Founders Trapped in China & The Billionaire Tax: Anyone Left in California?

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    20VC: Anthropic's $6BN Revenue Month | OpenAI Kills Sora & Hits $100M ARR on Ads | Oura Going Public & Whoop Raises at $10BN | Manus Founders Trapped in China & The Billionaire Tax: Anyone Left in California?

    AGENDA: 00:00 — Anthropic's Monster Month: 6 Billion in February Revenue 04:30 — The "Claude Mythos" Leak: 10 Trillion Parameters 11:50 — OpenAI Kills "Sora": A Massive Strategic Own Goal? 14:30 — OpenAI Hits $100M in Ads: Why OpenAI Must Make Ads Work 20:50 — Masa Son's $40BN Bridge Loan: Investing More Into OpenAI 21:50 — Cybersecurity Stocks Tank: Is the Anthropic Panic Justified? 27:10 — The Golden Age of Cyber: Why AI Agents are a "Golden Goose" for Security 31:30 — Gross vs. Net: The Truth Behind AI Revenue Accounting 34:50 — The "Vibe Coding" Era: Reselling Tokens and Triple-Counting ARR 41:00 — Oura Going Public & Whoop Raises $500M at $10BN Valuation 49:50 — Epic Games Layoffs: The Reality of the Attention Economy 52:40 — The Manus Scandal: Founders Trapped in China After Meta Deal 59:00 — The Billionaire Tax: Why the Golden Geese are Leaving California 01:03:20 — Do VCs Actually Add Value? The Ron Conway vs. Matthew Prince Spat

    1 h 10 min
  6. 20VC: Marc Andreessen on The Future of Venture Capital: Will a16z Go Public | Why Labour Displacement with AI is Wrong | Why Introspection is Dangerous | Why "Diamonds in the Rough" is BS in VC | Why a16z Invested $300M into Adam Neumann

    30 MARS

    20VC: Marc Andreessen on The Future of Venture Capital: Will a16z Go Public | Why Labour Displacement with AI is Wrong | Why Introspection is Dangerous | Why "Diamonds in the Rough" is BS in VC | Why a16z Invested $300M into Adam Neumann

    Marc Andreessen is a Co-Founder and General Partner at Andreessen Horowitz. The firm now manages over $90BN and has invested in the likes of OpenAI, Airbnb, Coinbase, Anduril and many more. Marc is an innovator and creator, one of the few to pioneer a software category used by more than a billion people and one of the few to establish multiple billion-dollar companies. Marc co-created the Mosaic internet browser and co-founded Netscape (sold to AOL for $4.2 billion). He also co-founded Loudcloud, which as Opsware, sold to Hewlett-Packard for $1.6 billion.  AGENDA: 05:00 — Why Introspection is Overrated: The Dangers of Learning from the Past 08:00 — The One Trait Marc Andreessen Looks For in Every Founder 14:30 — Are the Best Founders Broken? What Makes the Best Founders? 16:00 — "Extreme Ownership": Why Everything Being Your Fault Changes Everything 19:00 — "Do You Read the Comments?" Fame, Criticism & How to Deal with Haters 26:00 — Is Venture Now Go Big or Go Home? The Real Future of VC 30:00 — Does Price Matter Anymore? The Dangerous Truth About Valuations 33:00 — "Stop Chasing Diamonds in the Rough": Why Most VCs Get This Completely Wrong 36:00 — Do You Actually Need to Like Founders? The Uncomfortable Answer 40:00 — Are Companies 75% Overstaffed? The Most Controversial Take on Hiring 45:00 — When Will a16z Go Public?  50:00 — Why Labour Displacement Theory Around AI is Totally Wrong 55:00 — Why Silicon Valley Is More Dominant Than Ever? 01:00:00 — Why a16z Invested $300M into Adam Neumann  01:05:00 — What Still Drives Marc Andreesen? 01:10:00 — What is the Biggest Mistakes VCs Still Make Today?

    1 h 12 min
  7. 20VC: The Venture Model is Broken | You Need to be Greedy and Selfish to Win Early Stage Investing | Why Margins Do Not Matter for Early-Stage Startups | The Growth Rate that is Required in a World of AI with Gili Raanan, Founder @ Cyberstarts

    28 MARS

    20VC: The Venture Model is Broken | You Need to be Greedy and Selfish to Win Early Stage Investing | Why Margins Do Not Matter for Early-Stage Startups | The Growth Rate that is Required in a World of AI with Gili Raanan, Founder @ Cyberstarts

    Gili Raanan is the Founder of Cyberstarts, one of the best performing venture funds of the last decade. He is famed for being the seed investor in Wiz, Islands and Cyera, leading to multiple 10x+ funds. He has the only remaining monopoly in venture; cyber security in Israel. If it is good, Gili sees it, it is that simple.  AGENDA: 00:00 — Does the Venture Business Even Work Anymore? 05:58 — The Insane Rise of $150M Seed Rounds! 08:58 — Will Mega Funds Ever Actually Return Venture Economics? 11:13 — How Do You Value Companies Growing at Impossible Speeds? 14:50 — The Truth About Growth: Why Most Companies Eventually Plateau 18:50 — Do Margins Still Matter in the Age of AI? 24:32 — How To Make Mega Money in the World of Secondaries 28:11 — What Are Core Misalignments Between GPs and LPs That No One Discusses? 37:57 — Quick Fire: Best Investment, Most Memorable Founder, Investing Icon

    53 min
  8. 20VC: Why You Need a $1BN Fund To Do Series A Today | OpenAI vs Anthropic: Who Wins Enterprise | SpaceX at $2TRN and Data Centers in Space | The $20BN Groq Deal Broken Down | Jeff Bezos' $100BN New Fund

    26 MARS

    20VC: Why You Need a $1BN Fund To Do Series A Today | OpenAI vs Anthropic: Who Wins Enterprise | SpaceX at $2TRN and Data Centers in Space | The $20BN Groq Deal Broken Down | Jeff Bezos' $100BN New Fund

    AGENDA: 05:00 — Anthropic vs. OpenAI: Who Is Actually Winning the Enterprise War? 07:55 — "Air of Desperation": Is OpenAI Losing Its Invincibility? 18:00 — SpaceX at $2 Trillion: Elon's Insane Plan to Build Data Centers in Space 29:00 — Jeff Bezos' $100 Billion Fund: The End of "Doing It the Hard Way" 34:00 — The $20 Billion "Acqui-hire": The Groq Deal Broken Down 40:40 — Figma's Death Spiral? Why the Markets Are Terrified of AI Disruption 56:00 — The Broken VC Math: Why You Need $1BN To Do Series A 01:04:00 — Win or Die: The Terrifying Reality of the Unicorn "Dead Zone"

    1 h 18 min
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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC) interviews the world's greatest venture capitalists with prior guests including Sequoia's Doug Leone and Benchmark's Bill Gurley. Once per week, 20VC Host, Harry Stebbings is also joined by one of the great founders of our time with prior founder episodes from Spotify's Daniel Ek, Linkedin's Reid Hoffman, and Snowflake's Frank Slootman. If you would like to see more of The Twenty Minute VC (20VC), head to www.20vc.com for more information on the podcast, show notes, resources and more.

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